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Dr. K. Norman Johnson, Chair

Oregon State University


Dr. James Agee

University of Washington


Dr. Robert Beschta

Oregon State University


Dr. Virginia Dale

Oak Ridge National Lab.

Oak Ridge, TN


Dr. Linda Hardesty

Washington State Univ.


Dr. James Long

Utah State University


Dr. Larry Nielsen

Pennsylvania State Univ.


Dr. Barry Noon

Colorado State University


Dr. Roger Sedjo

Resources for the Future

Washington, D.C.


Dr. Margaret Shannon

Maxwell School of Citizenship & Public Affairs

Syracuse, NY


Dr. Ronald Trosper

Northern Arizona Univ.


Charles Wilkinson

University of Colorado


Dr. Julia Wondolleck

University of Michigan



DATE: October 30, 1998


TO: The Committee of Scientists


FROM: K. Norman Johnson, Committee Chair


SUBJECT: Teleconference #6 Committee Meeting Notes



The Committee of Scientists conducted a public teleconference call on August 17, 1998 from 11:00 am to 2:00 PM Eastern Daylight time.


The purpose of the teleconference was to continue to discuss the committee's draft report to the Secretary of Agriculture and the Chief of the Forest Service. The public could participate on the telephone call at the Washington D.C. Office of the Forest Service and all regional offices of the Forest Service.


Enclosed you will find:

Attendance on August 17, 1998

Meeting minutes



Thank you for your participation in the meeting.



August 17, 1998; TELECONFERENCE




Dr. Norm Johnson, Chair

Washington D.C. Office of Forest Service -

Dr. James Agee

Jonathan Stephens, Forest Service

Dr. Virginia Dale

Bob Cunningham, Designated Federal Official

Dr. Linda Hardesty

Sietske Smith, Defenders of Wildlife

Dr. Jim Long


Dr. Larry Nielsen

Region 1 -

Dr. Barry Noon

Deb Kmon, Alliance for the Wild Rockies

Dr. Roger Sedjo

Katherine Deuel, Alliance for the Wild Rockies

Dr. Ronald Trosper


Dr. Julia Wondolleck

Region 6 -


Rich Dupreon, Forest Service



Region 8 -


Robert Wilhelm, Forest Service


Paul Arndt, Forest Service


David Merriweather, Forest Service


Jean Kruglewicz, Forest Service


Jack Holcomb, Forest Service


Region 9 -


Mary Krueger, Forest Service


Sam Emmons, Forest Service


Steve Kessler, Forest Service




General Discussion of Status of Report


Dr. Johnson informed the Committee that an editor was working on the report. The tentative date for release of the final report is September 15, 1998.


Discussion of Status of Revised Planning Regulations


Bob Cunningham, Designated Federal Official, discussed his team's work on the revised planning regulations. Mr. Cunningham emphasized that the draft regulations were incorporating the collaborative planning principles from the committee report. Cunningham stated that the rule is tentatively scheduled for public release by September 30.


General Discussion of Sections of Report


Dr. Johnson led a discussion on the Purpose, Goals, and Principles. The Committee discussed its understanding of the term "ecological integrity". The Committee agreed that the term and definition is evolving and the report should recognize this. The Committee discussed a proposed addition to the Watershed section regarding FERC dam relicensing.

Dr. Julia Wondolleck, led a discussion on Stewardship Capacity. The Committee discussed that capacity pertains to the capacity in the Forest Service, as well as outside the agency. The Forest Service needs to be a "learning organization".

The Committee discussed the international efforts on criteria and indicators for sustainable forest management.

The Committee discussed the forest plan appeals process including the differences between the BLM approach to appeals (pre-decisional) and Forest Service regulations (post decisional) approach. The Committee acknowledged that the current appeals process is complex and my not be beneficial to all parties. However, the Committee was reluctant to make specific recommendations for reform.