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I am also conducting charcoal identification on the Pacific Northwest Coast=
of the United States=2C and find that many for many of the genus/species t=
hat I am trying to identify=2C I have to collect the wood myself and creat =
my own charcoal for the comparitive collection. I use a metallurgical micro=
scope for these identifications=3B is this what you are using?
Kathleen L. Hawes=2C Laboratory Director=20
SPSCC Anthropology Lab
aragalen@msn.com
hawkat01@evergreen.edu
khawes@spscc.ctc.edu
(360) 754-7711 ext. 3970 Anthropology Lab
(360) 561-5139 cell=20
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Date: Wed=2C 19 Aug 2009 19:15:34 -0500
From: rmiller1@wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [IAWA Forum] Pinaceae identification
To: cl379@cam.ac.uk
CC: iawa@COF.ORST.EDU
Normally you can only identify the pines into 3 groups -- red=2C white and =
yellow pines. What groups are Pinus gerardiana and P. roxburghii? Cedrus s=
hould be rather distinctive. However=2C working with charcoal can be diffic=
ult.
Regis
Dr. Regis B. Miller=2C Executive Secretary of IAWA
USDA Forest Service=2C Forest Products Laboratory
Center for Wood Anatomy Research
One Gifford Pinchot Drive
Madison=2C WI 53726-2398
Tele: 608/231-9341
Fax : 608/231-9508
Email: rmiller1@wisc.edu
http://www2.fpl.fs.fed.us
On Aug 19=2C 2009=2C at 5:27 PM=2C Carla Lancelotti wrote:
Dear list members=2C
I am working on wood charcoal from Pakistan for my PhD and have recently fo=
und some conifer species that I am trying to identify. I have arrived to Fa=
mily (Pinaceae) but I am having problems discerning genus and species for l=
ack of reference material.
Do any of you have=2C or can tell me where to find=2C descriptions and poss=
ibly pictures of Pinus gerardiana=2C P. roxburghii and Cedrus deodara? I am=
almost sure it is one of these three as both Pine and Cedar have been prev=
iously identified in archaeological material from this area. Unfortunately =
the publications I have read don't get to species level for pine and don't =
give a full description of cedar.
Many thanks for your help.
Carla
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Carla Lancelotti
Pitt-Rivers Laborotory for Bioarchaeology
Department of Archaeology
Downing Site
Cambridge
CB2 3DZ
UK
Tel (lab): +44 (0) 1223 333537
cl379@cam.ac.uk
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ct: Re: [IAWA Forum] Pinaceae identification<BR>To: cl379@cam.ac.uk<BR>CC: =
iawa@COF.ORST.EDU<BR><BR>Normally you can only identify the pines into 3 gr=
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<DIV>USDA Forest Service=2C Forest Products Laboratory</DIV>
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<DIV>Madison=2C WI =3B 53726-2398</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Tele: =3B 608/231-9341</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word">Dear list members=2C
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I am working on wood charcoal from Pakistan for my PhD and have recent=
ly found some conifer species that I am trying to identify. I have arrived =
to Family (Pinaceae) but I am having problems discerning genus and species =
for lack of reference material.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Do any of you have=2C or can tell me where to find=2C descriptions and=
possibly pictures of <I>Pinus gerardiana</I>=2C <I>P. roxburghii</I> =
=3Band <I>Cedrus deodara</I>? I am almost sure it is one of these three as =
both Pine and Cedar have been previously identified in archaeological mater=
ial from this area. Unfortunately the publications I have read don't get to=
species level for pine and don't give a full description of cedar.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Many thanks for your help.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Carla</DIV><BR><BR>
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<DIV>Carla Lancelotti</DIV>
<DIV>Pitt-Rivers Laborotory for Bioarchaeology</DIV>
<DIV>Department of Archaeology</DIV>
<DIV>Downing Site</DIV>
<DIV>Cambridge</DIV>
<DIV>CB2 3DZ</DIV>
<DIV>UK</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Tel (lab): +44 (0) 1223 333537</DIV>
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