Re: [IAWA Forum] Pinaceae identification

From: Lee Newsom <lan12@psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [IAWA Forum] Pinaceae identification
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:08:57 -0400

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As another archaeobotanist working intensively with wood remains, 
carbonized and otherwise, I recommend the IAWA softwood list (see 
below). As one of the committee members who worked to develop that list, 
I would point out that we made an effort to include concerns with 
archaeological and paleontological wood in the list.  You can use most 
of the characters in the list with no problem and you might find some of 
the references such as Phillips' articles helpful. 

(2004) IAWA List of Microscopic Features for Softwood Identification, 
edited by H.G. Richter, D. Grosser, I. Heinz, and P.E. Gasson. /IAWA 
Journal/ 25(1):1-70.



Kathleen Hawes wrote:
> I am also conducting charcoal identification on the Pacific Northwest 
> Coast of the United States, and find that many for many of the 
> genus/species that I am trying to identify, I have to collect the wood 
> myself and creat my own charcoal for the comparitive collection. I use 
> a metallurgical microscope for these identifications; is this what you 
> are using?
>
> Kathleen L. Hawes, Laboratory Director 
> SPSCC Anthropology Lab
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:15:34 -0500
> From: rmiller1@wisc.edu
> Subject: Re: [IAWA Forum] Pinaceae identification
> To: cl379@cam.ac.uk
> CC: iawa@COF.ORST.EDU
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> Normally you can only identify the pines into 3 groups -- red, white 
> and yellow pines.  What groups are /Pinus gerardiana and/ /P. 
> roxburghii/? Cedrus should be rather distinctive. However, working 
> with charcoal can be difficult.
>
> Regis
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> Dr. Regis B. Miller, Executive Secretary of IAWA
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> Center for Wood Anatomy Research
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> On Aug 19, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Carla Lancelotti wrote:
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> Dear list members,
>
> I am working on wood charcoal from Pakistan for my PhD and have 
> recently found some conifer species that I am trying to identify. I 
> have arrived to Family (Pinaceae) but I am having problems discerning 
> genus and species for lack of reference material.
>
> Do any of you have, or can tell me where to find, descriptions and 
> possibly pictures of /Pinus gerardiana/, /P. roxburghii/ and /Cedrus 
> deodara/? I am almost sure it is one of these three as both Pine and 
> Cedar have been previously identified in archaeological material from 
> this area. Unfortunately the publications I have read don't get to 
> species level for pine and don't give a full description of cedar.
>
> Many thanks for your help.
>
> Carla
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> Department of Archaeology
> Downing Site
> Cambridge
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